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<p>Pints, Pies &amp; Profits&nbsp;is the weekly business podcast for founders and owners who want straight answers, not more noise. Every episode, Mike and Scott crack open a craft beer, cut into a pie, and dig into the real stuff, cash flow, team drama, strategy, growth, the decisions that keep you up at night. No jargon. No lectures. No pretending it's easy. Just honest conversations that leave you thinking more clearly about Monday morning.</p>
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    <itunes:summary>Running a business is one of the loneliest jobs in the world. Everyone thinks you've got it figured out. Most days, it feels like you're not so sure.

Pints, Pies &amp; Profits is the weekly business podcast for founders and owners who want straight answers, not more noise. Every episode, Mike and Scott crack open a craft beer, cut into a pie, and dig into the real stuff, cash flow, team drama, strategy, growth, the decisions that keep you up at night. No jargon. No lectures. No pretending it's easy. Just honest conversations that leave you thinking more clearly about Monday morning.

Because business shouldn't feel like something that's happening to you. It should feel like something you're building.

New episodes every Thursday. </itunes:summary>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>A practical, framework-heavy episode on how owners actually get better at running their business &mdash; and how to know what kind of help you need next.</p> <p>-You'll learn: the 70-20-10 rule for learning (on-the-job, coached, and formal/theory);</p> <p>-How to spot your business's natural bias across Product, Customer and Finance;</p> <p>-The real difference between a mentor and a coach;</p> <p>-Why looking outside your own industry for advice often pays off more;</p> <p>-and why "strong opinions, loosely held" beats either stubbornness or indecision.</p> <p>Beer: Brew Moon The Wolf APA (5.8%) &amp; Garage Project Party and Bullshit Hazy IPA (6.2%)<br>Pie: Kel's Bakery, Amberley &mdash; Pork, Apple Sauce &amp; Cheese</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Liked this one? Make sure you catch the next episode - hit subscribe and check us out here:</p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@pintspiesandprofits">YouTube</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/pintspiesandprofits/">Instagram</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/pintspiesandprofits/">Facebook</a></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Want an in-person 6 day business program that gives you a tried and tested playbook to grow? Check out: <a href="https://www.point16.co.nz/business-growth-school">Business Growth School</a></p> <p>Want better content? Check out:&nbsp;<a href="https://blacklime.co.nz/">Blacklime</a></p> <p>The company that uncomplicates business growth. Check out:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.point16.co.nz/">Point 16</a></p> <p>Get to know us!&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/achievemoreeasily/">Mike Burke</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.instagram.com/scottisliving/">Scott Douglas</a></p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p>]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A practical, framework-heavy episode on how owners actually get better at running their business &mdash; and how to know what kind of help you need next.</p> <p>-You'll learn: the 70-20-10 rule for learning (on-the-job, coached, and formal/theory);</p> <p>-How to spot your business's natural bias across Product, Customer and Finance;</p> <p>-The real difference between a mentor and a coach;</p> <p>-Why looking outside your own industry for advice often pays off more;</p> <p>-and why "strong opinions, loosely held" beats either stubbornness or indecision.</p> <p>Beer: Brew Moon The Wolf APA (5.8%) &amp; Garage Project Party and Bullshit Hazy IPA (6.2%)<br>Pie: Kel's Bakery, Amberley &mdash; Pork, Apple Sauce &amp; Cheese</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Liked this one? Make sure you catch the next episode - hit subscribe and check us out here:</p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@pintspiesandprofits">YouTube</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/pintspiesandprofits/">Instagram</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/pintspiesandprofits/">Facebook</a></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Want an in-person 6 day business program that gives you a tried and tested playbook to grow? Check out: <a href="https://www.point16.co.nz/business-growth-school">Business Growth School</a></p> <p>Want better content? Check out:&nbsp;<a href="https://blacklime.co.nz/">Blacklime</a></p> <p>The company that uncomplicates business growth. Check out:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.point16.co.nz/">Point 16</a></p> <p>Get to know us!&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/achievemoreeasily/">Mike Burke</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.instagram.com/scottisliving/">Scott Douglas</a></p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Prompted by a brewery's 30th anniversary as a family operation, this episode tackles one of the trickiest topics in business: handing it down. Mike and Scott get honest about ego, entitlement, and what actually needs to be true for a succession plan to work.</p> <p>You'll learn:</p> <p>-The real first question to ask before bringing family into the business &mdash; whose ego is this really for?;</p> <p>-Why "gift it for free" and "sell it at a painful premium" both tend to backfire;</p> <p>-A fairer structure using open-market valuation plus negotiated terms;</p> <p>-The difference between a business's DNA (non-negotiable) and its culture (adaptable);</p> <p>-and why the "first generation builds, second grows, third kills" rule has exceptions worth studying.</p> <p>Beer: Mount Brewery Waimea Foggy IPA (6.5%) &amp; Mermaid Mirth APA (6%)<br>Pie: Patrick's Pies &mdash; Duck, Mushroom &amp; Cheese</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Liked this one? Make sure you catch the next episode - hit subscribe and check us out here:</p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@pintspiesandprofits">YouTube</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/pintspiesandprofits/">Instagram</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/pintspiesandprofits/">Facebook</a></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Want an in-person 6 day business program that gives you a tried and tested playbook to grow? Check out: <a href="https://www.point16.co.nz/business-growth-school">Business Growth School</a></p> <p>Want better content? Check out:&nbsp;<a href="https://blacklime.co.nz/">Blacklime</a></p> <p>The company that uncomplicates business growth. Check out:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.point16.co.nz/">Point 16</a></p> <p>Get to know us!&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/achievemoreeasily/">Mike Burke</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.instagram.com/scottisliving/">Scott Douglas</a></p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p>]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prompted by a brewery's 30th anniversary as a family operation, this episode tackles one of the trickiest topics in business: handing it down. Mike and Scott get honest about ego, entitlement, and what actually needs to be true for a succession plan to work.</p> <p>You'll learn:</p> <p>-The real first question to ask before bringing family into the business &mdash; whose ego is this really for?;</p> <p>-Why "gift it for free" and "sell it at a painful premium" both tend to backfire;</p> <p>-A fairer structure using open-market valuation plus negotiated terms;</p> <p>-The difference between a business's DNA (non-negotiable) and its culture (adaptable);</p> <p>-and why the "first generation builds, second grows, third kills" rule has exceptions worth studying.</p> <p>Beer: Mount Brewery Waimea Foggy IPA (6.5%) &amp; Mermaid Mirth APA (6%)<br>Pie: Patrick's Pies &mdash; Duck, Mushroom &amp; Cheese</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Liked this one? Make sure you catch the next episode - hit subscribe and check us out here:</p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@pintspiesandprofits">YouTube</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/pintspiesandprofits/">Instagram</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/pintspiesandprofits/">Facebook</a></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Want an in-person 6 day business program that gives you a tried and tested playbook to grow? Check out: <a href="https://www.point16.co.nz/business-growth-school">Business Growth School</a></p> <p>Want better content? Check out:&nbsp;<a href="https://blacklime.co.nz/">Blacklime</a></p> <p>The company that uncomplicates business growth. Check out:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.point16.co.nz/">Point 16</a></p> <p>Get to know us!&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/achievemoreeasily/">Mike Burke</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.instagram.com/scottisliving/">Scott Douglas</a></p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Named for the "butterfly effect" theme of the beer on the table, this episode is all about compounding - in your finances, your habits, and your leadership. Scott shares a personal four-week transformation, and the pair unpack why "catch it quick, catch it small" is the leadership mantra worth stealing.</p> <p>You'll learn:</p> <p>-How compounding interest works for you (savings) and against you (debt);</p> <p>-A simple morning/evening routine that improved sleep and focus within weeks;</p> <p>-Why addressing behaviour &mdash; good or bad &mdash; in the moment beats delayed, formal feedback;</p> <p>-How "tech debt" and "operational debt" build up when businesses skip small evolutions;</p> <p>-and a single standing question to add to your monthly meetings to catch change early.</p> <p>Beer: b.effect Social Experiment West Coast IPA 6%, Ridgeline Hazy IPA&nbsp; 6% &amp; Sticky Forest Hemp IPA 5.5%<br>Pie: Bakerij (Village Bakery Picton) &mdash; Sweet Chilli Chicken &amp; Cream Cheese</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Liked this one? Make sure you catch the next episode - hit subscribe and check us out here:</p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@pintspiesandprofits">YouTube</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/pintspiesandprofits/">Instagram</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/pintspiesandprofits/">Facebook</a></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Want an in-person 6 day business program that gives you a tried and tested playbook to grow? Check out: <a href="https://www.point16.co.nz/business-growth-school">Business Growth School</a></p> <p>Want better content? Check out:&nbsp;<a href="https://blacklime.co.nz/">Blacklime</a></p> <p>The company that uncomplicates business growth. Check out:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.point16.co.nz/">Point 16</a></p> <p>Get to know us!&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/achievemoreeasily/">Mike Burke</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.instagram.com/scottisliving/">Scott Douglas</a></p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p>]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Named for the "butterfly effect" theme of the beer on the table, this episode is all about compounding - in your finances, your habits, and your leadership. Scott shares a personal four-week transformation, and the pair unpack why "catch it quick, catch it small" is the leadership mantra worth stealing.</p> <p>You'll learn:</p> <p>-How compounding interest works for you (savings) and against you (debt);</p> <p>-A simple morning/evening routine that improved sleep and focus within weeks;</p> <p>-Why addressing behaviour &mdash; good or bad &mdash; in the moment beats delayed, formal feedback;</p> <p>-How "tech debt" and "operational debt" build up when businesses skip small evolutions;</p> <p>-and a single standing question to add to your monthly meetings to catch change early.</p> <p>Beer: b.effect Social Experiment West Coast IPA 6%, Ridgeline Hazy IPA&nbsp; 6% &amp; Sticky Forest Hemp IPA 5.5%<br>Pie: Bakerij (Village Bakery Picton) &mdash; Sweet Chilli Chicken &amp; Cream Cheese</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Liked this one? Make sure you catch the next episode - hit subscribe and check us out here:</p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@pintspiesandprofits">YouTube</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/pintspiesandprofits/">Instagram</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/pintspiesandprofits/">Facebook</a></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Want an in-person 6 day business program that gives you a tried and tested playbook to grow? Check out: <a href="https://www.point16.co.nz/business-growth-school">Business Growth School</a></p> <p>Want better content? Check out:&nbsp;<a href="https://blacklime.co.nz/">Blacklime</a></p> <p>The company that uncomplicates business growth. Check out:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.point16.co.nz/">Point 16</a></p> <p>Get to know us!&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/achievemoreeasily/">Mike Burke</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.instagram.com/scottisliving/">Scott Douglas</a></p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Mike (openly admitting his bias as a business coach) and Scott rank the outside relationships that move the needle most for small business owners &mdash; starting with the one nobody argues against&hellip;</p> <p>You'll learn:</p> <p>-Why a business coach or mentor is consistently rated the #1 lever by leaders from Eric Schmidt to elite athletes;</p> <p>-What to actually look for in a coach (complementary skills, trust, "serve the business, not the person");</p> <p>-Why brand is an underused commercial lever (the difference between $10 and $12 pricing is your margin);</p> <p>-The emerging concept of AEO &mdash; Answer Engine Optimisation for AI search;</p> <p>-and when a lawyer or HR contractor is worth the spend.</p> <p>Beer: Garage Project Friendly (3.8%) &amp; Sawmill Beach Day Bright IPA (5.5%)<br>Pie: Mairangi Bakery Pie 2 Go &mdash; Beef Brisket</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Liked this one? Make sure you catch the next episode - hit subscribe and check us out here:</p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@pintspiesandprofits">YouTube</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/pintspiesandprofits/">Instagram</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/pintspiesandprofits/">Facebook</a></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Want an in-person 6 day business program that gives you a tried and tested playbook to grow? Check out: <a href="https://www.point16.co.nz/business-growth-school">Business Growth School</a></p> <p>Want better content? Check out:&nbsp;<a href="https://blacklime.co.nz/">Blacklime</a></p> <p>The company that uncomplicates business growth. Check out:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.point16.co.nz/">Point 16</a></p> <p>Get to know us!&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/achievemoreeasily/">Mike Burke</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.instagram.com/scottisliving/">Scott Douglas</a></p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p>]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike (openly admitting his bias as a business coach) and Scott rank the outside relationships that move the needle most for small business owners &mdash; starting with the one nobody argues against&hellip;</p> <p>You'll learn:</p> <p>-Why a business coach or mentor is consistently rated the #1 lever by leaders from Eric Schmidt to elite athletes;</p> <p>-What to actually look for in a coach (complementary skills, trust, "serve the business, not the person");</p> <p>-Why brand is an underused commercial lever (the difference between $10 and $12 pricing is your margin);</p> <p>-The emerging concept of AEO &mdash; Answer Engine Optimisation for AI search;</p> <p>-and when a lawyer or HR contractor is worth the spend.</p> <p>Beer: Garage Project Friendly (3.8%) &amp; Sawmill Beach Day Bright IPA (5.5%)<br>Pie: Mairangi Bakery Pie 2 Go &mdash; Beef Brisket</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Liked this one? Make sure you catch the next episode - hit subscribe and check us out here:</p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@pintspiesandprofits">YouTube</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/pintspiesandprofits/">Instagram</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/pintspiesandprofits/">Facebook</a></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Want an in-person 6 day business program that gives you a tried and tested playbook to grow? Check out: <a href="https://www.point16.co.nz/business-growth-school">Business Growth School</a></p> <p>Want better content? Check out:&nbsp;<a href="https://blacklime.co.nz/">Blacklime</a></p> <p>The company that uncomplicates business growth. Check out:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.point16.co.nz/">Point 16</a></p> <p>Get to know us!&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/achievemoreeasily/">Mike Burke</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.instagram.com/scottisliving/">Scott Douglas</a></p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
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      <title>How to take your business idea to fruition and what to do when you want  investment</title>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>The episode where the podcast officially gets its name. Fresh off travels through South Korea and Japan, Scott and Mike map out the real path from idea to first customer &mdash; and the four ways to fund it, ranked from best to last resort.</p> <p>You'll learn:</p> <p>-How to validate an idea with a Value Proposition Canvas before building anything;</p> <p>-Why "your idea has no value until it's created value";</p> <p>-The four funding paths in order of preference &mdash; pre-sales, bootstrapping, non-dilutive capital, then equity;</p> <p>-What VCs actually look for (upside and downside mitigation);</p> <p>-and why no pitch deck survives contact with real customers.</p> <p>For a deeper dive into these topics check out episodes:<br>17 (How to take your business to fruition)<br>18 (What to do when you&rsquo;re looking for investment)</p> <p>Beer: Sprig and Fern Hop Flake Hazy (5.8%) &amp; Neon Noir Japanese Black Lager (4.8%) | Pie: Mairangi Bakery Pie 2 Go &mdash; Beef Rendang &amp; Cheese</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Liked this one? Make sure you catch the next episode - hit subscribe and check us out here:</p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@pintspiesandprofits">YouTube</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/pintspiesandprofits/">Instagram</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/pintspiesandprofits/">Facebook</a></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Want an in-person 6 day business program that gives you a tried and tested playbook to grow? Check out: <a href="https://www.point16.co.nz/business-growth-school">Business Growth School</a></p> <p>Want better content? Check out:&nbsp;<a href="https://blacklime.co.nz/">Blacklime</a></p> <p>The company that uncomplicates business growth. Check out:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.point16.co.nz/">Point 16</a></p> <p>Get to know us!&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/achievemoreeasily/">Mike Burke</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.instagram.com/scottisliving/">Scott Douglas</a></p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p>]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The episode where the podcast officially gets its name. Fresh off travels through South Korea and Japan, Scott and Mike map out the real path from idea to first customer &mdash; and the four ways to fund it, ranked from best to last resort.</p> <p>You'll learn:</p> <p>-How to validate an idea with a Value Proposition Canvas before building anything;</p> <p>-Why "your idea has no value until it's created value";</p> <p>-The four funding paths in order of preference &mdash; pre-sales, bootstrapping, non-dilutive capital, then equity;</p> <p>-What VCs actually look for (upside and downside mitigation);</p> <p>-and why no pitch deck survives contact with real customers.</p> <p>For a deeper dive into these topics check out episodes:<br>17 (How to take your business to fruition)<br>18 (What to do when you&rsquo;re looking for investment)</p> <p>Beer: Sprig and Fern Hop Flake Hazy (5.8%) &amp; Neon Noir Japanese Black Lager (4.8%) | Pie: Mairangi Bakery Pie 2 Go &mdash; Beef Rendang &amp; Cheese</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Liked this one? Make sure you catch the next episode - hit subscribe and check us out here:</p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@pintspiesandprofits">YouTube</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/pintspiesandprofits/">Instagram</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/pintspiesandprofits/">Facebook</a></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Want an in-person 6 day business program that gives you a tried and tested playbook to grow? Check out: <a href="https://www.point16.co.nz/business-growth-school">Business Growth School</a></p> <p>Want better content? Check out:&nbsp;<a href="https://blacklime.co.nz/">Blacklime</a></p> <p>The company that uncomplicates business growth. Check out:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.point16.co.nz/">Point 16</a></p> <p>Get to know us!&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/achievemoreeasily/">Mike Burke</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.instagram.com/scottisliving/">Scott Douglas</a></p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
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      <title>Quick Fire Questions at Mike</title>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>A lighter, rapid-fire format. Scott puts Mike on the spot over Panhead XPA and a Pioneer Pies steak &amp; blue vein, covering the sketchiest deal that ever paid off, the most nerve-wracking moment of his career, and what he actually wants his kids to learn about business.</p> <p>You'll learn:</p> <p>-How a 4.5x-multiple, 48-hour-decision ramp-manufacturing deal became "an absolute rocket ship";</p> <p>-How six companies navigated COVID and the emotional toll that followed;</p> <p>-The origin story of the NZ Beer Festival (and a $100K lesson in de-risking);</p> <p>-Core negotiation principles &mdash; know your non-negotiables, negotiate in packages, not line by line;</p> <p>- and what actually drives deals: not alcohol, but genuine conversation.</p> <p>Beer: Panhead Quickchange XPA (4.6%)<br>Pie: Pioneer Pies &mdash; Steak &amp; Blue Vein Cheese</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Liked this one? Make sure you catch the next episode - hit subscribe and check us out here:</p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@pintspiesandprofits">YouTube</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/pintspiesandprofits/">Instagram</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/pintspiesandprofits/">Facebook</a></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Want an in-person 6 day business program that gives you a tried and tested playbook to grow? Check out: <a href="https://www.point16.co.nz/business-growth-school">Business Growth School</a></p> <p>Want better content? Check out:&nbsp;<a href="https://blacklime.co.nz/">Blacklime</a></p> <p>The company that uncomplicates business growth. Check out:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.point16.co.nz/">Point 16</a></p> <p>Get to know us!&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/achievemoreeasily/">Mike Burke</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.instagram.com/scottisliving/">Scott Douglas</a></p> <p>&nbsp;</p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p>]]></description>
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      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Inspired by a walk near Queenstown, this episode slows things down. Over Altitude Brewing's Hazy IPA and (arguably) the best pie of the series so far, Mike and Scott talk about why a goal needs "soul," why regular reflection beats sporadic hustle, and why celebrating wins is a growth multiplier, not a distraction.</p> <p>You'll learn:</p> <p>The three pillars of sustainable growth:<br>1) goal with soul,<br>2) review &amp; reflection,<br>3) and gratitude;</p> <p>- Stephen Covey's urgent/important matrix applied to business owners;</p> <p>- The WRAP (Weekly Review Action Plan) habit;</p> <p>- Why writing goals down (and sharing them) makes them stick;</p> <p>- and why ringing a literal bell for milestones matters more than you'd think.</p> <p>Beer: Altitude Brewing Hazy IPA (6.5%)<br>Pie: Bacon Brew, Ōrewa &mdash; Chicken, Cranberry &amp; Cheese (9.7/10)</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Liked this one? Make sure you catch the next episode - hit subscribe and check us out here:</p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@pintspiesandprofits">YouTube</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/pintspiesandprofits/">Instagram</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/pintspiesandprofits/">Facebook</a></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Want an in-person 6 day business program that gives you a tried and tested playbook to grow? Check out: <a href="https://www.point16.co.nz/business-growth-school">Business Growth School</a></p> <p>Want better content? Check out:&nbsp;<a href="https://blacklime.co.nz/">Blacklime</a></p> <p>The company that uncomplicates business growth. Check out:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.point16.co.nz/">Point 16</a></p> <p>Get to know us!&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/achievemoreeasily/">Mike Burke</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.instagram.com/scottisliving/">Scott Douglas</a></p> <p>&nbsp;</p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p>]]></description>
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      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Scott breaks his own "NZ craft only" rule with an Indonesian beer and a nostalgic servo-style pie, the hosts turn the mic on imposter syndrome, when confidence-faking helps vs. hurts, and why the best operators know exactly which rules to break.</p> <p>You'll learn:&nbsp;</p> <p>- The "30% uncomfortable" rule for sustainable growth;</p> <p>- When to project confidence vs. when to put your hand up and ask for help;</p> <p>- Why "create process, don't just follow it" beats dogmatic frameworks;</p> <p>- The hiring "chemistry test" used for senior roles;</p> <p>- and why knowing what you want (and how to ask for it) eliminates 80% of decision fatigue.</p> <p>Beer: Kura Kura Session Hazy IPA &amp; Fruited Sour (Bali import)&nbsp;</p> <p>Pie: Big Ben (the old skool staple!) &mdash; Mince &amp; Double Cheese</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Liked this one? Make sure you catch the next episode - hit subscribe and check us out here:</p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@pintspiesandprofits">YouTube</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/pintspiesandprofits/">Instagram</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/pintspiesandprofits/">Facebook</a></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Want an in-person 6 day business program that gives you a tried and tested playbook to grow? Check out: <a href="https://www.point16.co.nz/business-growth-school">Business Growth School</a></p> <p>Want better content? Check out:&nbsp;<a href="https://blacklime.co.nz/">Blacklime</a></p> <p>The company that uncomplicates business growth. Check out:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.point16.co.nz/">Point 16</a></p> <p>Get to know us!&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/achievemoreeasily/">Mike Burke</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.instagram.com/scottisliving/">Scott Douglas</a></p> <p>&nbsp;</p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p>]]></description>
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      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
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      <title>What happens when business starts turning to sh#t</title>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>A sobering, practical one. Using the collapse and rescue of Epic Beer as a case study, Mike and Scott talk about the real signs a business is in trouble, when to pull the pin, and why over-leverage &mdash; not bad ideas &mdash; kills most companies.</p> <p>You'll learn:</p> <p>- The difference between voluntary and involuntary liquidation;</p> <p>- Why "get the umbrella when it's sunny" beats scrambling for capital in a crisis;</p> <p>- The danger of personal guarantees;</p> <p>- How Mike navigated 16 weeks of zero revenue during COVID across the portfolio;</p> <p>And why testing a $1,000 hypothesis beats betting $1M on an assumption.</p> <p>Beer: Epic Hop Zombie Double IPA (8.5%) &amp; Epic Rush NZ IPA (7.2%)&nbsp;</p> <p>Pie: Rolla's Pies &mdash; Steak, Bacon Jam &amp; Cheese</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Liked this one? Make sure you catch the next episode - hit subscribe and check us out here:</p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@pintspiesandprofits">YouTube</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/pintspiesandprofits/">Instagram</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/pintspiesandprofits/">Facebook</a></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Want an in-person 6 day business program that gives you a tried and tested playbook to grow? Check out: <a href="https://www.point16.co.nz/business-growth-school">Business Growth School</a></p> <p>Want better content? Check out:&nbsp;<a href="https://blacklime.co.nz/">Blacklime</a></p> <p>The company that uncomplicates business growth. Check out:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.point16.co.nz/">Point 16</a></p> <p>Get to know us!&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/achievemoreeasily/">Mike Burke</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.instagram.com/scottisliving/">Scott Douglas</a></p> <p>&nbsp;</p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p>]]></description>
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      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>The hosts unpack why passion is one of the worst reasons to start a business &mdash; and what to chase instead. Over 8Wired IPAs and a Red Beach Bakehouse sweet plum &amp; lamb pie, they trace the line from mastery to passion, and confront the uncomfortable question: are you the bottleneck in your own company?</p> <p>You'll learn:</p> <ul> <li>The PCF (Product-Customer-Finance) framework for diagnosing a stalling business;</li> <li>Why "get good, then get passionate" beats "follow your passion";<br>the difference between helpful and harmful ego;<br>-Why growth cliffs force you to change how you operate;</li> <li>and the classic negotiation question &mdash; would you rather own 100% of $100K or 10% of $10M?</li> </ul> <p>Beer: 8 Wired Hopwired NZ IPA (7.3%) &amp; Hazewired Hazy IPA (7%) |<br>Pie: Red Beach Bakehouse &mdash; Sweet Plum &amp; Lamb</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Liked this one? Make sure you catch the next episode - hit subscribe and check us out here:</p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@pintspiesandprofits">YouTube</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/pintspiesandprofits/">Instagram</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/pintspiesandprofits/">Facebook</a></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Want an in-person 6 day business program that gives you a tried and tested playbook to grow? Check out: <a href="https://www.point16.co.nz/business-growth-school">Business Growth School</a></p> <p>Want better content? Check out:&nbsp;<a href="https://blacklime.co.nz/">Blacklime</a></p> <p>The company that uncomplicates business growth. Check out:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.point16.co.nz/">Point 16</a></p> <p>Get to know us!&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/achievemoreeasily/">Mike Burke</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.instagram.com/scottisliving/">Scott Douglas</a></p> <p>&nbsp;</p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p>]]></description>
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