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What does it mean to be a good man and what happens when we stop teaching boys that masculinity has to fit inside a box? 

This week, Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt is joined by writer, speaker and anti-violence campaigner Tarang Chawla for a deeply personal and wide-ranging conversation about grief, masculinity, violence against women, the manosphere and what it means to create change. 

Tarang is the founder of Not One More Nikki, an organisation named in memory of his sister Nikki, who was murdered by her husband in 2015 at just 23 years old. He opens up about Nikki’s life, the abuse and coercive control she experienced, the devastating impact of her death, and how grief ultimately became a catalyst for his work advocating for an Australia free from violence against women. 

He reflects on the conversations we need to have with boys and men about power, empathy and accountability, and why “not all men” distracts from the more important question: what can men do to be part of the solution? 

Tarang also explores the rise of the manosphere, and the online spaces drawing young men towards misogyny and unpacks the “Man Box” - the expectations that tell boys and men to be tough, dominant and unemotional.  

Plus, Tarang shares the heartfelt message he would give to Nikki if she were here today, a deeply personal reflection on love, loss and the sibling bond they shared. 

This is a conversation about grief, masculinity, accountability and what it takes to create meaningful change. 

This episode covers: 

• Tarang Chawla on the death of his sister Nikki 
• Nikki’s story and the reality of coercive control 
• Turning grief into advocacy and action 
• Violence against women and men’s responsibility 
• Why “not all men” is a useless response 
• What men can do to be part of the solution 
• The rise of the manosphere and why young boys are drawn to online misogyny 
• The “Man Box” and expectations of masculinity 
• Accountability, bystander intervention and male friendship 
• Why “why doesn’t she just leave?” misses the point 
• Pauline Hanson’s comments on domestic violence 
• Challenging misogyny without turning away from boys and men 
• Grief, memory and living with the loss of Nikki 
• What Tarang wants men to understand about violence 
• Creating a healthier, more expansive idea of masculinity 

If this conversation raises issues for you, support is available. 

In Australia, contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 for 24/7 crisis support, 1800RESPECT on 1800 737 732 for domestic, family and sexual violence support.  

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What happens when you refuse to be defined by just one version of yourself? 

This week, Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt is joined by Sabrina Dhowre Elba for a wide-ranging conversation about beauty, ambition, heritage, purpose and finding your own path. 

Sabrina is a model, entrepreneur, beauty founder, activist, philanthropist and UN Goodwill Ambassador, but she’s also someone who has spent much of her life challenging the idea that women have to fit neatly into one box. She opens up about growing up in a Somali family in Canada, the influence of her mother Maryam, and how her heritage shaped the way she thinks about advocacy, philanthropy and representation. 

She also talks about building S’Able Labs with Idris Elba, her husband, and the frustration with an industry that historically failed to properly cater to melanin-rich skin. Which ultimately lead to why she wanted to create a beauty brand that celebrates African ingredients and knowledge without making the product feel exclusive.  

Sabrina also shares her hopes for changing the way the world talks about Africa, her work around agriculture and economic independence, and what she has learnt about using her platform to create long-term change. And, in a new chapter, she opens up about taking on her first lead film role, and what she discovered about herself while stepping into acting. 

This is a conversation about identity, ambition, culture, purpose and the freedom to explore every side of yourself. As Sabrina puts it, her message is simple: don’t be afraid to explore different sides of yourself and just do the thing. 

This episode covers: 

• Sabrina Dhowre Elba on refusing to be put in a box 
• Growing up in a Somali family in Canada 
• The influence of her mother, Maryam 
• Heritage, identity and representation 
• Building S’Able Labs with Idris Elba 
• Creating more inclusive skincare 
• African botanicals and traditional knowledge 
• The realities of self-funding a beauty brand 
• Purpose, philanthropy and meaningful impact 
• Changing the way the world talks about Africa 
• Agriculture, climate change and economic independence 
• Marriage, partnership and working with Idris 
• Sabrina's first lead film role 
• Why you should never be afraid to explore different sides of yourself 

Check out S'Able Labs here https://bit.ly/4x3WzLd

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What does it mean to define yourself when so much of your life has been shaped by other people's expectations?  

This week on You're Gonna Want To Hear This, Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt is joined by actress Adrianne Palicki for an intimate conversation about growing up in Hollywood, finding your voice, and the women she's played who have stayed with audiences long after the cameras stopped rolling. 

Nearly 20 years after Friday Night Lights first premiered, Adrianne reflects on the enduring legacy of Tyra Collette, a character who spent much of the series being underestimated and defined by others, before finally choosing to imagine a different future for herself. As the show celebrates its anniversary, Adrianne talks about reconnecting with the cast and fans, why Tyra's famous college essay still resonates with her, and the extraordinary messages she's received from women whose lives were changed by the character. 

She also opens up about navigating Hollywood as a woman, from being judged by appearances and underestimated early in her career, to the pressure to be strong, likeable and youthful.  

Adrianne also speaks about her new indie drama Due West, reuniting with fellow Friday Night Lights alumni and playing a woman forced to take control of her future when the systems around her fail. She discusses the power of independent filmmaking, the stories she wants to tell about women, and why she's drawn to characters who refuse to be defined by their circumstances. 

This is a conversation about ambition, resilience, identity, ageing, rejection and reinvention, and what happens when you stop asking other people who you're supposed to be. 

This episode covers: 

• Adrianne Palicki on the enduring legacy of Friday Night Lights 
• Why Tyra Collette still resonates with women nearly 20 years later 
• The Friday Night Lights 20th anniversary and reconnecting with the cast 
• The importance of Tyra's “define myself” college essay 
• Being underestimated and finding your own sense of possibility 
• Growing up and finding your way in Hollywood 
• Being a woman in an industry obsessed with youth and appearance 
• Rejection, ambition and redefining success 
• Ageing and finding freedom in your 40s 
• Adrianne's new film Due West 
• Reuniting with Friday Night Lights alumni on Due West 
• Producing Texas Forever: The Legacy of Friday Night Lights 
• What it means to define yourself on your own terms 

You can watch Due West on Apple TV 

Friday Night Lights 20th Anniversary Roadshow: www.plex.tv/friday-night-lights-roadtrip 

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Can starting over at 50 lead to the happiest chapter of your life? 

Continuing from part one, Marie Claire editor Georgie McCourt talks to fashion entrepreneur and style icon Tash Sefton about finding love again, turning 50, and the new life she never expected to build. 

Tash opens up about meeting her husband Adam and the unexpected way love entered her life after divorce. She talks candidly about self-sabotage, learning to accept kindness after being hurt, and why she believes love often arrives when you stop looking for it. She reflects on the moment she realised she had created an entirely new life for herself — and why she now sees starting again as something she would highly recommend. 

Tash also talks about turning 50, the anxiety she felt about the milestone and the beautiful way her friends and family helped her embrace it. Rather than seeing 50 as an ending, she began to recognise it as the beginning of a new chapter: one filled with love, friendship, purpose and a renewed sense of self. 

The conversation turns to style and the reason behind her business, Where Did Your Style Go? Tash explores why so many women lose touch with their personal style as their lives change, and why getting dressed should be about feeling like yourself rather than following trends. She shares her approach to building a wardrobe around classics, mixing vintage with contemporary pieces, and helping women understand their own style, while also discussing her relationship with social media and why authenticity matters more than chasing followers. 

This is a conversation about reinvention, identity, love and the freedom that can come with getting older. As Tash discovers, sometimes the life you build after everything changes can be even better than the one you thought you were meant to have. 

This episode covers: 

• Finding love again after divorce 
• Meeting Adam and learning to trust a new relationship 
• Self-sabotage and the fear of getting hurt again 
• Why love can arrive when you stop looking for it 
• Turning 50 and confronting the anxiety around ageing 
• The friendships that helped her embrace a new chapter 
• Starting a new life and choosing happiness 
• Why women can lose their sense of style as their lives change 
• The philosophy behind Where Did Your Style Go? 
• Building a wardrobe around classics rather than trends 
• Mixing vintage, contemporary fashion and personal style 
• Helping women rediscover who they are through what they wear 
• Using social media as a tool rather than letting it control you 
• Why she only promotes products she genuinely believes in 
• What success, happiness and purpose mean in this chapter of her life 

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What happens when the life you built no longer feels like your own?  

This is part one of a two-part conversation. Marie Claire editor Georgie McCourt sits down with fashion entrepreneur, digital creator and Where Did Your Style Go? founder Tash Sefton to talk about her extraordinary career, motherhood, divorce and the experience of rebuilding your identity from scratch. 

Tash takes us back to the beginning, from discovering her love of fashion through her Croatian grandmother and mother, to becoming a fashion buyer, entrepreneur and one of Australia's most recognisable style voices. She reflects on more than two decades spent shaping the way Australian women shop and dress, and why she eventually walked away from parts of the fashion industry that no longer felt authentic. 

She opens up about the end of her 22-year marriage, navigating divorce with children, and rediscovering who she was outside of being a wife and mother. Tash reflects on learning to be comfortable alone, rebuilding her confidence and identity, and finding the freedom to start again. 

Tash also shares what happened when she stopped looking for love, began dating again, and discovered that a new chapter could be even better than the one she'd left behind. 

Part two continues the conversation with Tash on finding love again, turning 50, the evolution of her personal style, authenticity on social media, and why so many women reach a point in life where they no longer recognise themselves.  

This episode covers: 

• Discovering fashion through her grandmother and mother 
• Building a career as a fashion buyer, entrepreneur and digital creator 
• More than two decades shaping Australian women's approach to style 
• Walking away from parts of the fashion industry that no longer felt authentic 
• The end of her 22-year marriage 
• Navigating divorce and motherhood 
• Losing and rebuilding her sense of identity 
• Learning to have a relationship with herself 
• Finding freedom and contentment in being alone 
• Dating after divorce and rediscovering herself 
• Why she wasn't looking for love when it eventually found her 
• Starting again and believing life can get better 

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For more than three decades Natasha Stott Despoja has been a kick-ass part of public life in Australia - firstly as our nation's youngest ever Senator - sitting in Canberra's Parliament House at the tender age of 26. Then in numerous government and representative roles, Natasha has consistently had a passion for the wellbeing of Australian women. Whether it was in her capacity as the former Australian Ambassador for Women and Girls or as the longstanding Chair of Our Watch - our peak body tasked with preventing violence against women and children - Natasha has simply always had our backs. And now at this time of social isolation - where domestic violence victims are more exposed than ever before - she has much to say about how we can all help each other to ensure women at risk are looked after. Natasha's words of wisdom are what we need right now - so listen up. 

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